Our process is still ongoing – we are awaiting the outcome of the investigation and the Court, Inhambane’s decision regarding Lot 189 Tofo Beach and Sulemane Cabir.
We are still hopeful that the outcome will be that we are awarded our Piece of Paradise.
Tuesday, November 11, 2008
Friday, July 18, 2008
Lot 189 Tofo / Tofinho, and Sulemane Cabir - Inhambane, Mozambique
Our Mozambique lawyer has the official notice issued by the Inhambane Municipal that we will not receive our DUATE, according to the Inhambane Municipal, the property does not belong to Sulemane Cabir and we need to break the infrastructure we purchased from Sulemane Cabir down.
Sunday, June 15, 2008
Friday, May 16, 2008
Lot 189 Tofinho / Tofo and Sulemane Cabir
Hi Monica
Have you had any updates to your process?
Not sure if you saw this post placed on 16/05/2008 - it appears it may have been posted by Sulemane Cabir.
"Monica and Barry are totally wrong and being driven to a vultures´ path by a network of corrupt Municipality officials and others! Sulemane Cabir is categorically the owner of plot 189. Undeniable proof is at the Inhambane City Registrar´s Office where the Municiapility corrupts tried illegally to anul is Title Deeds to cover up their wrongdoings. Monica and Barry bought an infrastructure (an unfinished house) from Sulemane Cabir. They didn´t buy land! They do have the legal documents from the relevant Government Departments prooving that, namely the "SISA" and the "Escritura Pública"! Monica and Barry don´t even need a DUAT!Legally and by force of Article 16 of Mozambique Land Law, when you by an infrastructure, the land called " Logradouro" or "Domínio Útil" is automatically the buyer´s domain.The Municipality is not competent and has no authority to deny Monica and Barry´s legal rights.It´s a shame and a pitty, inspite of many warnings, but they choose to believe in corrupt and criminal officials from the Municipality! And Sulemane Cabir spent more dealing with Monica and Barry paper work than what they claim and there are proof of that. Inhambane Town Hall is run by a network of corrupt officials allied to a group of specific South African elements involved in illegal land transactions.Monica and Barry should tell who is the Municipality oficcial that gave them a piece of paper written in portuguese and they signed it without knowing what the contents where!There is much more to the self inflicted saga! In time...May 16, 2008 12:07 AM"
Have you had any updates to your process?
Not sure if you saw this post placed on 16/05/2008 - it appears it may have been posted by Sulemane Cabir.
"Monica and Barry are totally wrong and being driven to a vultures´ path by a network of corrupt Municipality officials and others! Sulemane Cabir is categorically the owner of plot 189. Undeniable proof is at the Inhambane City Registrar´s Office where the Municiapility corrupts tried illegally to anul is Title Deeds to cover up their wrongdoings. Monica and Barry bought an infrastructure (an unfinished house) from Sulemane Cabir. They didn´t buy land! They do have the legal documents from the relevant Government Departments prooving that, namely the "SISA" and the "Escritura Pública"! Monica and Barry don´t even need a DUAT!Legally and by force of Article 16 of Mozambique Land Law, when you by an infrastructure, the land called " Logradouro" or "Domínio Útil" is automatically the buyer´s domain.The Municipality is not competent and has no authority to deny Monica and Barry´s legal rights.It´s a shame and a pitty, inspite of many warnings, but they choose to believe in corrupt and criminal officials from the Municipality! And Sulemane Cabir spent more dealing with Monica and Barry paper work than what they claim and there are proof of that. Inhambane Town Hall is run by a network of corrupt officials allied to a group of specific South African elements involved in illegal land transactions.Monica and Barry should tell who is the Municipality oficcial that gave them a piece of paper written in portuguese and they signed it without knowing what the contents where!There is much more to the self inflicted saga! In time...May 16, 2008 12:07 AM"
Friday, May 2, 2008
Stand 189 Tofo Beach and Sulemane Cabir
We have just returned from Tofo Beach - what a beautiful spot - it is stunning - we know what we fell in love with.
It does not look like we will get our DUAT for the 2000m2 of stand 189 Tofo Beach that we purchased from Sulemane Cabir in 2006!!!
We are waiting to get proof from the Inhambane Municipality that Sulemane Cabir does not own stand 189.
Will keep you posted.
Monica
It does not look like we will get our DUAT for the 2000m2 of stand 189 Tofo Beach that we purchased from Sulemane Cabir in 2006!!!
We are waiting to get proof from the Inhambane Municipality that Sulemane Cabir does not own stand 189.
Will keep you posted.
Monica
Sunday, March 30, 2008
Lot 189 Tofinho / Tofo and Sulemane Cabir
We have had no further news regarding our DUAT for the 2000m2 on stand 189 Tofinho.
We have been told that apparently Sulemane Cabir has sold four other people land with a similar agreement and they have not yet started on the process. We are not sure whether Sulemane Cabir offered to assist them but if he did they may end up having the same experience as we have had with Sulemane Cabir.
Monica
We have been told that apparently Sulemane Cabir has sold four other people land with a similar agreement and they have not yet started on the process. We are not sure whether Sulemane Cabir offered to assist them but if he did they may end up having the same experience as we have had with Sulemane Cabir.
Monica
Wednesday, March 19, 2008
Lot 189 Tofinho / Tofo
Have you had any news on your process on lot 189 Tofinho and Sulemane Cabir?
Did you see this on the net regarding Sulemane Cabir.
Did you see this on the net regarding Sulemane Cabir.
Moçambique para todos: Terras a saque em Inhambane
Monday, March 10, 2008
Lot 189 Tofinho / Tofo
We are really please that you have your registered company in Mozambique. The only thing outstanding is your receipt and it is important that you obtain this from Dr Malunga.
This process has taken far longer than the norm. Although the process is very long winded in Mozambique the process could have had all been completed in a matter of a few months should you have employed a competent person to take care of your paper work. Many people have trusted a local person – like Sulemane Cabir and this often does not work. It is evident from the problems you experienced and the response you have had from the various contacts of Sulemane Cabir that Sulemane did not honor his word.
Good luck with getting your process resolved.
Thursday, February 28, 2008
Lot 189 Tofo / Tofinho, and Sulemane Cabir - Inhambane, Mozambique
We have finally received our published Articles of Association for our company Marlyn Azul LDA which was published in the Boletim da República (Official Gazette) in February 2008.
We paid Sulemane Cabir on 09 April 2007 for this and only after following up with Dr Manuel Malunga ourselves have we had any joy.
Sulemane Cabir has given us a signed declaration that he paid the money and handed over the documents in April 2008. We are trying to establish from Dr Malunga whether this was in fact given to him in April 2007 and to get our receipt for this.
Monica
We paid Sulemane Cabir on 09 April 2007 for this and only after following up with Dr Manuel Malunga ourselves have we had any joy.
Sulemane Cabir has given us a signed declaration that he paid the money and handed over the documents in April 2008. We are trying to establish from Dr Malunga whether this was in fact given to him in April 2007 and to get our receipt for this.
Monica
Thursday, February 21, 2008
Lot 189 Tofo / Tofinho, Inhambane, Mozambique
Thank you for all your information and advice regarding the processes to acquire property in Inhambane, Mozambique and our dealings with Sulemane Cabir.
We found nothing on the web regarding Lot 189 Tofo / Tofinho, Inhambane, Mozambique and Sulemane Cabir until 17 February 2007. It is good to know that any potential person planning on dealing with Sulemane Cabir who searches the web will come across this blog and know the process regarding acquiring property in Inhambane, Mozambique and go into any dealings with Sulemane Cabir with their eyes open.
Sulemane Cabir was not upfront and informed us that all was in order, when he knew he had issues with the Inhambane Municipal. Further more it has now come to light that the moneys we paid Sulemane Cabir for the processes did not appear to have been used to apply for our various licenses. Sulemane Cabir ended up costing us a lot in time!!!
Monica
We found nothing on the web regarding Lot 189 Tofo / Tofinho, Inhambane, Mozambique and Sulemane Cabir until 17 February 2007. It is good to know that any potential person planning on dealing with Sulemane Cabir who searches the web will come across this blog and know the process regarding acquiring property in Inhambane, Mozambique and go into any dealings with Sulemane Cabir with their eyes open.
Sulemane Cabir was not upfront and informed us that all was in order, when he knew he had issues with the Inhambane Municipal. Further more it has now come to light that the moneys we paid Sulemane Cabir for the processes did not appear to have been used to apply for our various licenses. Sulemane Cabir ended up costing us a lot in time!!!
Monica
Sunday, February 17, 2008
Anonymous Post - Lot 189 Tofo / Tofinho, Inhambane, Mozambique
I am not sure whether you saw an earlier comment posted by an Anonymous visitor on 11 Januray 2008 who appears to be living in Inhambane. I have pasted this below for your info.
"I recommend you guys get the advice of a reputable laywer or legal advisor. Having been here in Inhambane many years, I have seen many people been ripped off due to there lack of knowledge of the laws of Mozambique. Remember too that if your a foreigner or non-resident you are not allowed to own land in Mozambique. Many people or opening front companies to bypass this law, but I assure you the goverment is closing all those loopholes, so be sure you are not caught with your pants down. Be especially careful with all those so called lodges in Tofo and Barra that are selling holiday houses, it might seem the goverment is ignoring them now but be assured that someting will happen shortly."
In your dealings with Sulemane Cabir we would also suggest you take on the services of a lawyer who is able to solve the problems you have had landed up with in dealing with Sulemane Cabir. It would be interesting to know if this Anonymous visitor knows / has dealt with Sulemane Cabir or whether he knows of any persons who have had dealings with Sulemane Cabir.
"I recommend you guys get the advice of a reputable laywer or legal advisor. Having been here in Inhambane many years, I have seen many people been ripped off due to there lack of knowledge of the laws of Mozambique. Remember too that if your a foreigner or non-resident you are not allowed to own land in Mozambique. Many people or opening front companies to bypass this law, but I assure you the goverment is closing all those loopholes, so be sure you are not caught with your pants down. Be especially careful with all those so called lodges in Tofo and Barra that are selling holiday houses, it might seem the goverment is ignoring them now but be assured that someting will happen shortly."
In your dealings with Sulemane Cabir we would also suggest you take on the services of a lawyer who is able to solve the problems you have had landed up with in dealing with Sulemane Cabir. It would be interesting to know if this Anonymous visitor knows / has dealt with Sulemane Cabir or whether he knows of any persons who have had dealings with Sulemane Cabir.
Saturday, February 16, 2008
Lot 189 Tofo / Tofinho, Inhambane, Mozambique
It sounds like you trusted in Sulemane Cabir without actually personally checking on the process and obtaining the receipts and documentation from Sulemane Cabir. Unfortunately this has happened to many people in Mozambique as dealing in Portuguese is often a stumbling block and trusting a local Mozambique person appears to be the only way.
I would strongly suggest to any person doing business in Mozambique to deal with a reputable Lawyer - from Mozambique or South Africa - as did a previous visitor to this blog.
I would strongly suggest to any person doing business in Mozambique to deal with a reputable Lawyer - from Mozambique or South Africa - as did a previous visitor to this blog.
Tuesday, January 22, 2008
Our dealings with Sulemane Cabir - Lot 189, Tofo/Tofinho, Inhambane, Mozambique
Sulemane Cabir offered to do all our paperwork - this was part of our written / signed deal. Sulemane Cabir promised that he would submit and ensure that our documentation was processed in the shortest possible time in Mozambique and that our documentation was correct (as he knew all the right Heads of Departments to achieve this). So consequently we paid him the fees he quoted and trusted him to do what he said. We only got worried a few months down the line when we NEVER received any documentation and NO receipts were forthcoming. We had trusted Sulemane Cabir as he came accross as a really honest man.
In answer to your first questions "(do you have a Mozambique company)" - we gave Sulemane Cabir our Estatutos (company documentation) and money for the submission, approval and publication in the BR (Bulletin de Republic ) on 09 April 2007. Sulemane Cabir informed us he had submitted this to the relavant office in Maputo and was dealing with Dr Malunga - Dr Malunga is the Head of Depatment in this regard. We have never received any of the documentation and no receipts in this regard. To date our BR has not been received.
In answer to your second question - "Did you receive a process number and the receipts for the process from Sulemane Cabir?" - No Sulemane Cabir never gave us a process number, for Lot 189 Tofo / Tofinho, from the Inhambane Municipality and no we never recieved any receipts from Suleman Cabir for moneys paid to the Inhambane Municipality on our behalf for Lot 189 Tofo / Tofinho. In January 2007 we paid Sulemane Cabir the stipulated amount for the submission of the plans / project to the Inhambane Municipality. In Januray 2007 we submitted out project for the 2000m2 on lot 189, Tofo / Tofinho, via e-mail (as requested by Sulemane Cabir) to Engineer João Moita in Maputo. Sulemane Cabir informed us that Engineer João Moita had checked our proposed plans for our project and amended the plans to Portugese and the Mozambiquan laws - Engineer João Moita has since informed us that this was not correct that Sulemane Cabir only asked him to receive the plans - he did not do anything on the plans. Sulemane Cabir informed us in February 2007 that he had personally submitted our project to the Inhambane Municipal. At the end of the year Sulemane Cabir informed us that the project was compiled by Engineer Marrengula for submission to the Inhambane Municipality (we have a copy which has been signed by Engineer Marrengula - given to us by Sulemane Cabir - not an original). Sulemane Cabir informed us that the project and moneys was then submitted and paid to Director Natu from the Inhambane Municipality through Engineer Marrengula.
In Your third question regarding the DUAT application for Lot 189 Tofo / Tofinho - "Did Sulemane Cabir give you any proof from the Inhambane Municipality in this regard?" - No Sulemane Cabir never gave us any proof. We eventually in October / November 2007, through dealing with Negotios Loja and the Tourism Director - Director Martino (what a wonderful, honest, helpful man who has a love for his country and is serious about Tourism) landed up putting in our DUAT application and this is where the wheels fell off the bus!!!
We only have ourselves to blame - we trusted Sulemane Cabir totally - we stayed in one of his houses and met with him on a daily basis to discuss the progress of our project. Sulemane Cabir always had a reason why the process was taking so long and how corrupt the various Mozambiquan Departments were. To date Sulemane Cabir has NEVER given us any of the abovementioned documentation and we have NEVER received any of the receipts for the moneys paid to Sulemane Cabir.
Your statement "but how can you be sure Sulemane Cabir has done what he said he has" - we are not sure Sulemane Cabir did any of the things he said he was going to do for us to secure our correct documentation for Lot 189 Tofo / Tofinho!
Monica
In answer to your first questions "(do you have a Mozambique company)" - we gave Sulemane Cabir our Estatutos (company documentation) and money for the submission, approval and publication in the BR (Bulletin de Republic ) on 09 April 2007. Sulemane Cabir informed us he had submitted this to the relavant office in Maputo and was dealing with Dr Malunga - Dr Malunga is the Head of Depatment in this regard. We have never received any of the documentation and no receipts in this regard. To date our BR has not been received.
In answer to your second question - "Did you receive a process number and the receipts for the process from Sulemane Cabir?" - No Sulemane Cabir never gave us a process number, for Lot 189 Tofo / Tofinho, from the Inhambane Municipality and no we never recieved any receipts from Suleman Cabir for moneys paid to the Inhambane Municipality on our behalf for Lot 189 Tofo / Tofinho. In January 2007 we paid Sulemane Cabir the stipulated amount for the submission of the plans / project to the Inhambane Municipality. In Januray 2007 we submitted out project for the 2000m2 on lot 189, Tofo / Tofinho, via e-mail (as requested by Sulemane Cabir) to Engineer João Moita in Maputo. Sulemane Cabir informed us that Engineer João Moita had checked our proposed plans for our project and amended the plans to Portugese and the Mozambiquan laws - Engineer João Moita has since informed us that this was not correct that Sulemane Cabir only asked him to receive the plans - he did not do anything on the plans. Sulemane Cabir informed us in February 2007 that he had personally submitted our project to the Inhambane Municipal. At the end of the year Sulemane Cabir informed us that the project was compiled by Engineer Marrengula for submission to the Inhambane Municipality (we have a copy which has been signed by Engineer Marrengula - given to us by Sulemane Cabir - not an original). Sulemane Cabir informed us that the project and moneys was then submitted and paid to Director Natu from the Inhambane Municipality through Engineer Marrengula.
In Your third question regarding the DUAT application for Lot 189 Tofo / Tofinho - "Did Sulemane Cabir give you any proof from the Inhambane Municipality in this regard?" - No Sulemane Cabir never gave us any proof. We eventually in October / November 2007, through dealing with Negotios Loja and the Tourism Director - Director Martino (what a wonderful, honest, helpful man who has a love for his country and is serious about Tourism) landed up putting in our DUAT application and this is where the wheels fell off the bus!!!
We only have ourselves to blame - we trusted Sulemane Cabir totally - we stayed in one of his houses and met with him on a daily basis to discuss the progress of our project. Sulemane Cabir always had a reason why the process was taking so long and how corrupt the various Mozambiquan Departments were. To date Sulemane Cabir has NEVER given us any of the abovementioned documentation and we have NEVER received any of the receipts for the moneys paid to Sulemane Cabir.
Your statement "but how can you be sure Sulemane Cabir has done what he said he has" - we are not sure Sulemane Cabir did any of the things he said he was going to do for us to secure our correct documentation for Lot 189 Tofo / Tofinho!
Monica
Tuesday, January 15, 2008
Procedure for your pruchase of Parcel 189 Tofinho
There is a procedure for purchasing property in Mozambique from a Private Individual.
As previously mentioned vacant land cannot be purchased from a Private Individual - in this case Sulemane Cabir. You obtain the right to the use of the infrastructure on the parcel of land, this can range from coconut trees to boundary walls to a building/buildings. If Sulemane Cabir sold you vacant land he is in contravention of the Mozambique law.
The first step in purchasing property in Mozambique would be to go to the local Municipality to establish who the legal owner is and whether he has the rights to sell the property, in the case of Tofo / Tofinho / Barra it would be the Inhambane Municipality. Always ensure that you personally go to the Municipality or any other Institution.
Once you have confirmed ownership and should you be developing on your proposed property purchase the next step would be to approach the local Municipality - in this case the Inhambane Municipality - to apply for a process to be started in your name / company name (do you have a Mozambique company). The Municipality will issue you with a process number and receipts on payment of the required fees. Part of this process is applying for a DUAT (the right to develop). The Inhambane Municipality would then send out a Topographer to mark / check the boundary pegs, you would have to pay for this service and would have received a receipt. You mentioned Sulemane Cabir was dealing with this. Did you receive a process number and the receipts for the process from Sulemane Cabir?
The Municipality will issue a DUAT in your name. This procedure could take a number of weeks as there are internal processes and if there isn't any infrastructure the DUAT proposal has to be displayed on a board for 45 days.
Only once the DUAT has been issued would you submit a project for approval.
It appears that in your case Barry and Monica Sulemane Cabir was dealing with this, but how can you be sure Sulemane Cabir has done what he said he has. Did Sulemane Cabir give you any proof from the Inhambane Municipality in this regard?
Friday, January 11, 2008
Parcel 189 Tofo / Tofinho, Inhambane, Mozambique
We have been dealing with Sulemane Cabir for over a year and a half on the purchase of 2000m2 of lot 189 Tofinho, Inhambane, Mozambique. This is a prime piece of beach front property in Tofo - paradise you could say.
The last year has been a stressful to say the least and a year and a half down the line and we are still not sure of our position / status regarding our purchase of lot 189 Tofinho, Inhambane, Mozambique.
From what we have found out in the last few months is that the property (lot 189 Tofo, Inhambane, Mozambique) was reclaimed by the Inhambane Municipality due to non development by Sulemane Cabir. Sulemane Cabir then took the Inhambane Municipality to court to dispute the reclaiming of lot 189 Tofo, Inhambane, Mozambique and won the case in April of 2006 for which he has the Court Sentensa - a detail he did not disclose upfront. This has caused endless problems as the Inhambane Municipality will not issue a DUAT (the right to develop land in Mozambique).
In our dealings with Sulemane Cabir we have found that he is not upfront with all the information and we would warn anybody entering into a proposed deal with Sulemane Cabir for the purchase of property in Barra Beach or Tofo to be very careful . Our advise would be to approach the Inhambane Municipality first before entering in any dealings with Sulemane Cabir. Although Sulemane Cabir's documentation appears to be in order it is the Inhambane Municipality who issue the DUAT and without the DUAT you will not be able to proceed with your development.
As Sulemane Cabir offered to assist / do all our paperwork (which in Mozambique is a nightmare) which included dealing with the Inhambane Municipality on our behalf - as he "had good relationships with the Mayor" - we did not approach the Inhambane Muncipality until the paperwork was not forthcoming. When we did approach the Inhambane Municipality a can of worms was opened.
We have a lot of information regarding our dealings with Sulemane Cabir and should any other party like to correspond with us in this regard please feel free to e-mail us through this site.
Monica
The last year has been a stressful to say the least and a year and a half down the line and we are still not sure of our position / status regarding our purchase of lot 189 Tofinho, Inhambane, Mozambique.
From what we have found out in the last few months is that the property (lot 189 Tofo, Inhambane, Mozambique) was reclaimed by the Inhambane Municipality due to non development by Sulemane Cabir. Sulemane Cabir then took the Inhambane Municipality to court to dispute the reclaiming of lot 189 Tofo, Inhambane, Mozambique and won the case in April of 2006 for which he has the Court Sentensa - a detail he did not disclose upfront. This has caused endless problems as the Inhambane Municipality will not issue a DUAT (the right to develop land in Mozambique).
In our dealings with Sulemane Cabir we have found that he is not upfront with all the information and we would warn anybody entering into a proposed deal with Sulemane Cabir for the purchase of property in Barra Beach or Tofo to be very careful . Our advise would be to approach the Inhambane Municipality first before entering in any dealings with Sulemane Cabir. Although Sulemane Cabir's documentation appears to be in order it is the Inhambane Municipality who issue the DUAT and without the DUAT you will not be able to proceed with your development.
As Sulemane Cabir offered to assist / do all our paperwork (which in Mozambique is a nightmare) which included dealing with the Inhambane Municipality on our behalf - as he "had good relationships with the Mayor" - we did not approach the Inhambane Muncipality until the paperwork was not forthcoming. When we did approach the Inhambane Municipality a can of worms was opened.
We have a lot of information regarding our dealings with Sulemane Cabir and should any other party like to correspond with us in this regard please feel free to e-mail us through this site.
Monica
Tuesday, January 8, 2008
Property Disputes in Barra Beach and Tofinho
There have been a number of disputes regarding land that Sulemane Cabir owned. The land was reclaimed by the Inhambane Municipality due to non development of the parcels in Barra Beach and Tofinho.
In Mozambique you can not buy land - any purchase is of the infrastructure on the land.
The only time you can purchase vacant property is directly from the Municipality of the said area.
In Mozambique you can not buy land - any purchase is of the infrastructure on the land.
The only time you can purchase vacant property is directly from the Municipality of the said area.
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